Frazzled UBM

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  Hubby's tempted to go back

  by jgnat in

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  today he kept bumping in to (or rather dodging and weaving from) fellow witnesses.

  he's talking about returning but can't figure out a way to do it without enduring a fair amount of humiliation.

  i did not panic.

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  jgnat - sorry to hear this but your level-headed response should hopefully mean it will be a temporary phenomenom. My suggestion as to his excuse for going back: "I thought I would be happy not feeling bad about myself all the time but I realised I missed the feeling that I wasn't good enough and so my inner masocist is forcing me to return!" Some S&M gear would be the appropriate dress to express this sentiment. Fraz
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  Wars of Religion - THE TIMES - What a JW will think

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  link to the newspaper front page on bbc:.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-28699852.

  reason i started this topic is related on how the wts/jw's will react or jump onto this piece of news.. in previous years where un or some nation condemned the vatican, jw's start jumping into conclusion the end is near the great tribulation is starting.

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  Yes the WBTS will jump on this in the way they always focus on the negative and grab at straws to claim the end is nigh BUT governments will not ban religion ever. It would be political suicide and is contrary to the long-held principle of reedom of religion.
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  Will someone, please, stop ISIS?

  by skeeter1 in

  1. social
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  will anyone stop isis?by josh levs, cnnupdated 2:07 pm edt, thu august 7, 2014(cnn) -- if you're following the news about isis, which now calls itself the islamic state, you might think you've mistakenly clicked on a historical story about barbarians from millennia ago.. in a matter of months, the group seized territory in both iraq and syria and declared an islamic caliphate, celebrating its own shocking slaughter along the way.. "i don't see any attention from the rest of the world," a member of the yazidi minority in iraq told the new yorker.

  "in one day, they killed more than two thousand yazidi in sinjar, and the whole world says, 'save gaza, save gaza.'".

  in syria, the group hoisted some of its victims severed heads on poles.

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  Rushing to military action to invade Iraq and get rid of Saddam is what created the preconditions for groups like ISIS to take advantage of the security vacuum now existing in Iraq. Arming the Kurds is not the simple solution it appers to be either - the Kurds are just as likley to start using them to fight each other or Turkey. Obama is right to weigh his options - I see he has authorised air strikes. I see the UK is not joining in.
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  Freaking out a Jehovah's Witness

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as you know, my husband has physically left the witnesses.

  he nevertheless clings to many of the beliefs like a protective cloak, and every once in a while i trigger a dissonant episode where my reality clashes with his.

  recently he listened in on my work research, a video of a futurist describing the a potential "disruptive change" event in the next fifteen years, as our culture shifts to autonomic (driverless) vehicles.

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  jgnat - thanks for this post - good suggestion

  Watchtower Free - I copied and pasted your image in an email to my wife - It iw ll be interesting to see her response

  Terry - I liked your suggestion - I will try it

  cofty - that book sounds good - I will order it on Amazon
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  How to (or not) handle the occasional JW who wanders in here

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i originally thought of posting this thread last week when a thread was started last week: .

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/104099/1.ashx .

  this girl didn't seem to realize the extent of the "apostasy" on this thread.

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  yes thanks for bumping - a useful reminder
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  Why Are People Anti-Semitic?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i seriously don't get it.. some people truly hate`jews.. and it's not just jews.... gays, christians, blacks, mexicans, etc.

  are on the list.. intolerance is a terrible thing..

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  But will you also ask about why posters are anti-Muslim or anti-Arab?
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  Is their a new holocaust in the making ? Are jews being made the scapegoats again ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mass immigration in the world "seems" to have led to a rise in anti -semitism in the west.

  france now has more than six million muslims.. germany now has four million muslims.

  the netherlands has almost one million muslims .

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  smiddy - I am sorry to say that I totally disagree with you and would suggest that you are too influenced by a very effective campaign to justify the completely disproprotionate use of force by Israel. I would strongly encourage you to study the history of Zionism and the creation of the State of Israel starting with the Balfour declaration and carrying on through the use of terrorism by Zionist groups such as Irgun and the Stern Gang agaisnt the Brits to get them to abandon Palestine, which at the time was a British protectorate and prior to the Balfour declaration was more than 90 percent Palestinian Arab, in a way that created the preconditions for the creation of the State of Israel. They made their bed and now they have to lay in it but they want to play the victim. They are far from victims. But you need to distingusih Isrtael and Zinoims from the Jewish people generally who historically were victims of terrible racism. The irony is that it is now the Arabs and the Muslims who are the biggest targets of racist hatred as demonstrated by some of the posts on this and other threads. I must say I am horrified by the level of knowledge of the issues demonstrated by posters on JWN on this and other threads and there seems to be a correlation between the level of lack of understanding and the vehemence of the opinion. Hamas gets support from the youth of Gaza because of the sense of futility they have inherited. I have been to Gaza - it is miserable - young people htere have no propsects of any future whatsoever. Fraz
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  Why Are People Anti-Semitic?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i seriously don't get it.. some people truly hate`jews.. and it's not just jews.... gays, christians, blacks, mexicans, etc.

  are on the list.. intolerance is a terrible thing..

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  JB - WTF - ditch the conspiracy theories! While there are rich and influential Jews (and it is no accident that the US and UK governments are loath to cirticise Israel), there are are rich influential people from most ethnicities and religions. You also need to recognise that the Jewish people have been oppressed terribly over the years and the sort of crap that you sprout was often used as the rationalisation. I am a big opponent of Zionism and Israel's policies in Palestine, in particular the disproportionate attacks on Gaza but I cannot countenance inciting racial hatred either. Also your patronising 'I am right and the rest of you who do not accept what I am saying are idiots' tone is offensive. Fraz
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  Why Are People Anti-Semitic?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i seriously don't get it.. some people truly hate`jews.. and it's not just jews.... gays, christians, blacks, mexicans, etc.

  are on the list.. intolerance is a terrible thing..

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  I agree with Simon's point about how sometimes Zionists use accusations of anti-Semitism as a conversation stopper for criticism of Israel. You might wonder why Anti-Muslim and Anti-Arab don't get the same airplay.
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  My wife sees the lack of love and.. Any suggestions on how to proceed?

  by BU2B in

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  2. friends

  in the past few weeks, my wife has been seeing more and more the lack of love and caring from jws.

  for example, she is organizing a "princess party" for our 4 year old daughter.

  a couple of the parents have expressed reservations about this since they think princesses may be "too magical" even though we know they have been to disneyworld, and watch the disney channel.

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  My only other piece of advice is to take it slowly, be patietn and don't be discouraged by backward movements. I think you realise that introducing apostate literature to her or arguing doctrine or lecturing her now would be a mistake. Just keep showing her the love, maintain the open lines of communication and when she talks ask questions to let her see what her intuition is stgarting to tell her.